[FlamingYu]

I'm kinda dumb with this kind of stuff...
What should be changed from the list below for running 3D program and stuff
Just typing everything out what is listed on the paper >.>


Intel Core 2 Duo Desktop Computer System "CPU" only
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53Ghz Processor
Intel G33 Intel Original 775 Main board
2GB DDR2 Memory
500GB Sata Hard disk Drive
DVD RW Drive
Integrated Sound
Integrated Graphic Display
10/100 Base Ethernet Network Ready
6C29 P4 ATX Tower Casing
512MB DDR3 PCI Express Graphic Display Card

Tell me what to change,
Thanks =)

[Dark_Clown]

512MB DDR3 PCI Express Graphic Display Card <<< would change that one
and the 2 gb should at least be doubled

[FlamingYu]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dark_Clown

512MB DDR3 PCI Express Graphic Display Card <<< would change that one
and the 2 gb should at least be doubled

mmm..change to what kind of graphic card?
and RAM should be 4GB?

[hongster]

I suggest the ATI HD4850 card, which is sub $200, unless you want the overclocked version, it will cost you $200 - $230

[xibo]

no. Definitely go for intel or nvidia graphics chips, since you re doing CAD and all the CAD programs use OpenGL. ATi hardly supports OpenGL 2.0, while nvidia effectively dominates the OGL ARB.
The newer ( xga 3000 ) intel onboard display adapters are quite powerfull, too.
The amount of texture memory you have is not important, as everything with more then 256 MB will be enough anyway ( unless you want to run FS X ) or you can rely on the Terrabits/sec range PCX interface to copy the missing textures from system memory on the fly. The Important thing is sequencial framebuffer memory access speed ( = fill rate ), and the amount of texture processors availible ( 16 for geforce fx 8, 8 for gffx 6 and <=4 for <= gffx 5... only few benchmarks consider this because it s rarely a bottleneck in 3d games which is what consumer hardware is used for )

Like others said, get more memory. Memory is everything for professional graphics - no matter if you do photoshop or maya. Don t stop at 4 GB, go outrightly to 10 ( the 2 you have +2 4GB modules ) >.<
Even if you re not using memory-hungry programs the filesystem driver can keep stuff that should be written on the disk in memory until it is forced to flush it, which prevents file fragmentation and also speeds up the writing access due to fewer interrupt calls... especially if you use bittorrent on a high bandwidth connection or things like that...

[FlamingYu]

just check the Nvidia site for the GC, which one should i choose...gonna try 4GB RAM (no idea what is the price yet) *kinda confuse*
does the Main Board thing needs to be change or just leave it as it is?

[xibo]

you can probably leave it as is but you could also just replace it by an ich10 equipped board as those aren t that expensive anyway.

[goldensun695]

Before i give you my opinion, give me the purpose of that computer?. If it is simply a general purpose computer then you don't need such specs. However if you wish to use it for gaming as i did then you need several improvements.

[FlamingYu]

Quote: Originally Posted by goldensun695

Before i give you my opinion, give me the purpose of that computer?. If it is simply a general purpose computer then you don't need such specs. However if you wish to use it for gaming as i did then you need several improvements.

read the my post carefuly =)

here : "running 3D program and stuff"

and ich10 equipped board is a brand name or something >.< *im absolutely clueless*

[xibo]

ich10 ( and any other ichX ) are a chipset by intel which has some nice stuff like matrix storage ( which you re probably not going to use unless you insert at least a second hard disk ) or e1000 NIC... nvidia's counterparts probably have similar or close stuff but are more expensive for the same

the main advantage of intel to other brands however is that intel has better driver support.

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running 3D program and stuff

• if you want to do 3D graphics DESIGN go for nvidia main line on linux - the windows driver has clamped line rendering for the non-quatro cards while on linux ( btw linux drivers also have less bugs and release more regulary then windows ones at nvidia ) nvidia has to keep the industry's favour of being the best OpenGL distributer ( e.g. on linux the geforce fx 5 series has conditional jumps in fragment shaders ( = fragment shader 3 feature ) while on windows it does not )
  alternatively go for intel, xga series is VERY performant in tile blitting ( even faster then even the quatro series from nvidia ) and has powerfull shaders ( = geometry-, fragment- and vertex-shaders 4 ), too.
  Once again, fill rate is everything >.<
  Geometry Shading is not yet but might one day be used by professional renderers ( vertex and fragment shaders are too losy for real rendering, in OGL3/DX11 or not ), and GS Spec will probably not change in the next few years ( not until OGL 3.1 at least )
• if you intend to do 3D graphics PROGRAMING go nvidia hands down. same reasoning as for graphics design; also see developer.nvidia.com ( ati and intel have similar pages but ati is purely DX while intel's docs are targeting computer science/mathematics at least bachelleors so non-students will probably have hard times with it ).
• if you want to run hardware-hungry 3D VIDEO GAMES check some benchmarks ( there are plenty, just websearch )

[FlamingYu]

ah...say, which GC should i pick/use from Nvidia

the description at their web...doesnt tell me much for what each of them do...

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[riltz]

If u need a 3D program (or render aplications) from nvidia the best is the GTX 2XX series and the 9800GX2 because of their high amount of stream proccesors (used in CUDA aplications).
Nobody talk about the PSU :)
PSU is one of the most important things, crappy PSU = Burned computer.
If u get one of the high GPU i mention u need a PSU with 1 PCI-E 8 (6+2) pin and 1 PCI-E 6 pin (its for power supply), its highly recommended to get a 650w+ REAL WATTS (very important to be REAL) PSU for good operation, good brands are Antec, Coolermaster (high range), Silverstone, PC Power&Cooling.

The Motherboard u mention use Intel Chipset G33 (kind old), u can better ones with more recent chipsets like P45 (ex: Asus P5Q) or X38 (ex: Asus P5E3), also it will determine the CPU u can use (Front Side Bus speed, Nm technology), RAM memory speed and type (DDR2 800, DDR2 1066, DDR3 1333, etc), amount of video cards (be sure it have a PCI-E 16x port or u r screwed :D) and other stuff.

The CPU be sure to ask the model and look for it in wikipedia to see the nm fabrication, cache (very important in 3D render), FSB, voltage and multiplier (for overclock). For example a "Dual Core" of 3Ghz look good but if it is a Pentium D 830 u will have a cute bottleneck ^^.

The RAM memory also ask for speed (800 mhz, 1066 mhz), brand, cooling system of them because its not the same a generic DDR2 1066 RAM than a G.Skill DDR2 1066 PC2 8500 Pi version (omg i love them). If they are "cheap" ones u will have a bad performance and the risk that they can screw ur system (if they overheat lots and no cooling system it can pwn ur motherboard).

The Hard Disk ask Cache Size and RPM (7200 rpm or more are good). I recomend you a Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 series (storage from 250GB ~ 1.5TB) or a VelociRaptor for high performance.